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Hi to everyone. I am in a bit of a pickle and could do with some advice. I am building a Secter 1/48 Fiat G.50bis for a client, and have been given the excellent aces decal sheet made by Stormo! on which is featured Aldo Buvoli's Fiat in which he shot down down 4 Blenheim bombers in a single action. I have checked the reference cited on the decal sheet, but to no avail - what I am looking for is any information on the camouflage pattern carried on the starboard fuselage and upper wing surfaces. With broad stripes on the port fuselage, you can always make a guess, but I wonder if anyone has any information out there - if not on Buvoli's aircraft, then perhaps on similarly marked Fiat G.50s from the same squadron or other squadrons. Even educated guesses would be better than my own! Many thanks for any help you can give, Robin.
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A. Buvoli's Fiat G.50 - Stefano Lazzaro
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As you can see from the photo below (the pilot was Buvoli himself), and as can be seen there was no a 'sand and spinach'- type camo on this aircraft (and it was also rather dangerous to fly over North Africa with a such British-style camo, in July 1941, with a lot of Messerschmitts around, it isn't?). Simply, 155 Gruppo found that the Giallo Mim 3/Verde Mim 3/Marrone Mim 2 were unsuitable for the desert theatre, and as a result oversprayed the three tone camo with an irregular overcoat of a lighter camo yellow, most probably Giallo Mim 1. The darker patches were actually transparencies of the former camo. Other units previously did the same, as 50 Stormo in 1940 for its CR.32s and BA.65s. Also, note that the cowling was yellow FS 33655 and the wingtips white, accordingly with the theatre Axis markings for the period. The wing fasci had white background also roughly oversprayed with camo yellow. The front face of propeller blades were not aluminium as commonly believed, but of a light blue very similar to FS 35526. The spinner could have been yellow as for official indications, but often G.50s kept the original Squadriglia colour (green, white, red, yellow, blue or light blue as above), I have to research on this.

As a sidenote, this aircraft scored again on 23 November 1941, when Ten. Martinelli claimed a P-40 shot down, and a week later, when Ten. Galbiati damaged another P-40.

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A. Buvoli's Fiat G.50 - Lubos Pavel
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Hello Stefano,
Thank's a lot for your adding informations concerning on camouflage of Buvoli's machine. They are very interesting and for me as for beginner in italian airforce especially. I loaded your photo into the Photoshop and played a bit with him and the result you can see below. It's a pity the photos of Buvoli's machine are in the poor quality and low resolution. But you were right with the transparencies of the former camo.It's brightly seen on your photo.

Best regards.

Lubos


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A photo of a G.50 of 352^ Sq., 20o Gruppo. The quality of the photo is fair however the fuselage sides of the plane are stripped and the top-side wing camouflage is clearly visable.

Source Profile Publications Fiat G.50, No. 188 G. Cattaneo.


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shivadog
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Is this the only one known picture of Buvoli's G.50?
What about Osprey side view is it with the previous look, or it is completly wrong?



I found also in internet drawing, i don't know where from - model, or decals. Shapes in relation to photo looks more or less fine. What do You think about?

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Chris Busbridge
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Although I tend to agree with the scheme shown on kit diagram (whatever the kit it may be)... the scheme is mirrored, more or less, on the fuselage and definitely on the wings. Would this be correct? The only scheme I know of that IS mirrored in this way is the so called 'herringbone' scheme as seen on the ANR G-55's.
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"mirrored" camouflage schemes
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Chris Busbridge wrote:
Although I tend to agree with the scheme shown on kit diagram (whatever the kit it may be)... the scheme is mirrored, more or less, on the fuselage and definitely on the wings. Would this be correct? The only scheme I know of that IS mirrored in this way is the so called 'herringbone' scheme as seen on the ANR G-55's.


How about "banded" upper-surface camouflage on, for instance, 46 Stormo S.79's? An overhead shot in ALI D'ITALIA 28 (p. 64) nicely illustrates one such 254a Squadriglia pattern. I wonder: are "mirrored" Regia Aeronautica schemes more common than we thought?

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The question is if this drawing is based on more than this one picture, or shades on right side and are only vision of this instruction author? Somebody saw more picture of that plane?
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