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by Stefano
Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:23 am
Forum: Color and Camouflage Schemes
Topic: C9 camouflage
Replies: 11
Views: 5043

Re: C9 camouflage

[...] The camo pattern of 193-1 is closest to C9 (the size and shapes of the large splotches), the colors however are Giallo (yellow) mimetico base, Verde (green) and Marrone (brown) mimetico splotches. I don't think 193-1 was finished in two shades of green. C9 was a rare camo scheme that seemed t...
by Stefano
Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:33 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Macchi C.202 Early versions
Replies: 11
Views: 4560

Re: Macchi C.202 Early versions

+ This photo has appeared in several books. It might show an early machine in VOS over GAC camo, with a "Breda" demarcation line on the nose. But I'm not aware of other similar photos, and with the rest of the airframe not visible it's hard to be sure. I lean toward "71-2" being Macchi-built MM.776...
by Stefano
Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:54 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Macchi C.202 Early versions
Replies: 11
Views: 4560

Re: Macchi C.202 Early versions

This picture, by Dimensione Cielo - Immagini C3 , p. 23, is the only known on the subject, and was taken as reference for the profile in Ali e Colori . Note #2 on undercarriage door. Not sure about spinner tip red colour, it cant't be compared with red ind. no. by this view; it could have been also ...
by Stefano
Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:32 pm
Forum: Pics
Topic: Bf-109F-4 1/32 Hasegawa
Replies: 23
Views: 7861

Re: Bf-109F-4 1/32 Hasegawa

I wouldn't paint any erased cross on upperwings. I can't see any on there, and sun reflection would have highlited every feature. One of the F-4s flown by Marseille, I recall, had one cross partly chipped, suggesting it could have been a decal. Maybe Italians simply scrapped them. Undersides instead...
by Stefano
Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:39 am
Forum: Pics
Topic: Bf-109F-4 1/32 Hasegawa
Replies: 23
Views: 7861

Re: Bf-109F-4 1/32 Hasegawa

Excellent rendering of the squiggle. Surely RLM 75 seems more proper than GAC1 for it. Watching the stern view of the original, notwithstanding the fuselage in shadow and the sun reflection on wings, it seems the latter did have the squiggle but not what could seem an overpainting. Maybe the crosses...
by Stefano
Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:50 pm
Forum: Pics
Topic: Erla is coming
Replies: 29
Views: 7699

Re: Erla is coming

In my personal opinion, overspray was a soft and dense squiggle of a darker tone than GAC1 (see for comparison the undercarriage door of the MC.200 in the background), a pattern never used by Italians but, as stressed by Vince, sometimes used lately by Germans. Hence, I believe it was RLM 75. As for...
by Stefano
Wed Dec 07, 2022 2:49 am
Forum: Color and Camouflage Schemes
Topic: RE.2000 - The deal with Camo and interior
Replies: 8
Views: 3291

Re: RE.2000 - The deal with Camo and interior

I own that book. As I always say, never trust in a profile: it's just an artist's impression and needs an adequate knowledge of the matter. That is rather intricate in the case of RA. Though RJC is one of the best artists and an expert in Italian aviation, he could have been fooled by some pictures ...
by Stefano
Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:52 am
Forum: Color and Camouflage Schemes
Topic: RE.2000 - The deal with Camo and interior
Replies: 8
Views: 3291

Re: RE.2000 - The deal with Camo and interior

Please let me know which ones you repute to have had just two colours. We could analyze them together.
Stefano
by Stefano
Mon Dec 05, 2022 2:26 am
Forum: Color and Camouflage Schemes
Topic: RE.2000 - The deal with Camo and interior
Replies: 8
Views: 3291

Re: RE.2000 - The deal with Camo and interior

There should have been always 3-colours, unless repainting. In some pictures the reddish brown isn't so evident probably due to the use of filters in orthocromatic films. About the colour hues, the item was dealt in the past in the following topics: https://stormomagazine.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=...
by Stefano
Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:00 am
Forum: Color and Camouflage Schemes
Topic: Re 2005 cockpit detail painting
Replies: 4
Views: 2966

Re: Re 2005 cockpit detail painting

On the contrary of what commonly believed, the light grey was the standard color for interiors, or at least for cockpits, in RA aircraft. It was most probably the same Grigio Azzurro Chiaro 1 -which indeed has little of blue- and that in documents of the Tavola 10 era is mentioned as "yet in use". I...
by Stefano
Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:44 am
Forum: Malta and the Mediterranean June 1940 - September 1943
Topic: Mystery SM 79 with Tail “Kills” Markings
Replies: 6
Views: 4160

Re: Mystery SM 79 with Tail “Kills” Markings

Jean is right. Not a single ace score, but shapes of ships which were claimed hit or sunk by the whole 104° Gruppo (252^ and 253^ Squadriglia) during the big aero-naval battle of 14 June 1942. Some of the surviving aircraft (four were shot down) wore the score, but just on port side of the fin. The ...
by Stefano
Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:15 pm
Forum: Color and Camouflage Schemes
Topic: SM 79 interior color questions
Replies: 10
Views: 4760

Re: SM 79 interior color questions

Hi Peter, The S.79 was built by other factories other than SIAI, namely Reggiane, AUSA and Macchi. Light gray (i.e. Grigio Azzurro Chiaro 1 - FS 36307) was the standard finish for interiors, even before 1941, but it's known that at least Reggiane and Macchi often used instead their own Verde Anticor...
by Stefano
Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:26 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Blue color for CR.42 95a Sq. codes (BoB)
Replies: 2
Views: 4268

Re: Blue color for CR.42 95a Sq. codes (BoB)

Ciao Jean, Indeed the camo of CR.42 isn't a simple matter. After CMPR book, dated 1977, the common believing is that for all examples until 1941-42 camo was VM3 and MM2 spots over GM3, with GM undersides. This came by the analysis of a factory wood model and indeed it's confirmed by some color photo...
by Stefano
Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:16 am
Forum: Color and Camouflage Schemes
Topic: Spanish CANT Z.506 colours
Replies: 8
Views: 7885

Re: Spanish CANT Z.506 colours

Sorry for the late. I beg you pardon, but I'm working in a covid hospital and you understand I'm so busy in this period. I need to point something about the posts above. I agree with the Grigio uppersides, I can't see any other color for that seaplane. By the way the bomb -Italian ones were really g...
by Stefano
Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:41 am
Forum: Color and Camouflage Schemes
Topic: Macchi Veltro Colors?
Replies: 5
Views: 10282

Re: Macchi Veltro Colors?

Anticorrosive paints in RA were of several types. In 1940, there were at least two paints, a light grey and a light blue. The latter was fixed on metal by a kiln-dry treatment which turned it by blue into green. Later, it was also used, particularly on late FIATs, the zinc-chromate yellow; that one ...