USAAF- Inconsistencies in MACR reports
Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 9:31 pm
Hello All,
I have been doing a little research on aircraft claims and losses by the USAAF in the Italian campaign 1942-1945 and have discovered some interesting information, both conflicting results and missing data.
For example, there was an air battle on March 31, 1943 over the skies of Tunisia between P38s of the 82nd FG, escorting B25s of the 321BG., against a flight of Macchi 200s and ME 109s.
According to the report submitted by the pilots of the 95th FS, 82nd FG (Mission No. 99, March 31, 1943), 321 BG lost two B25s, which were attacked by Macchi 200s and also lost two P38s, which were attacked by both ME 109s and the MC. 200s. The two missing P38 pilots were 2nd Lt Joseph R. Sheen and 2nd Lt. Francis M. Molloy.
The source for this information is from the 82nd fighter Groups web site. www.82ndfightergroup.com
Now, when I visit the Army Air Forces web site that deals with the same reports, AAF combat chronology, MACR (Missing in Action Report), identification. etc to cross reference, the MACR only shows two B25s missing and does not list the P38s as shot down. www.armyairforces.com
I have also found conflicting and missing information on a few other reports.
The point that I am trying to make is that many of the books, articles, etc that I have read, regarding the RA/ANR fighting the Allies seem to have these type of errors, wrong or incomplete data and even sometimes mistaken identification of Italian-German aircraft.
Therfore, it appears to me that there are many aviation researchers who should not rely entirely on the Army Air forces data base, because a lot of the information is either wrong, misspelled, missing and even omitted.
Any thoughts?
Vincent.
I have been doing a little research on aircraft claims and losses by the USAAF in the Italian campaign 1942-1945 and have discovered some interesting information, both conflicting results and missing data.
For example, there was an air battle on March 31, 1943 over the skies of Tunisia between P38s of the 82nd FG, escorting B25s of the 321BG., against a flight of Macchi 200s and ME 109s.
According to the report submitted by the pilots of the 95th FS, 82nd FG (Mission No. 99, March 31, 1943), 321 BG lost two B25s, which were attacked by Macchi 200s and also lost two P38s, which were attacked by both ME 109s and the MC. 200s. The two missing P38 pilots were 2nd Lt Joseph R. Sheen and 2nd Lt. Francis M. Molloy.
The source for this information is from the 82nd fighter Groups web site. www.82ndfightergroup.com
Now, when I visit the Army Air Forces web site that deals with the same reports, AAF combat chronology, MACR (Missing in Action Report), identification. etc to cross reference, the MACR only shows two B25s missing and does not list the P38s as shot down. www.armyairforces.com
I have also found conflicting and missing information on a few other reports.
The point that I am trying to make is that many of the books, articles, etc that I have read, regarding the RA/ANR fighting the Allies seem to have these type of errors, wrong or incomplete data and even sometimes mistaken identification of Italian-German aircraft.
Therfore, it appears to me that there are many aviation researchers who should not rely entirely on the Army Air forces data base, because a lot of the information is either wrong, misspelled, missing and even omitted.
Any thoughts?
Vincent.