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Pre 1940 Pattuglia Acrobatica

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:17 pm
by tricci57
Hello
I always remain a bit confused on the dates and Stormo and Squadriglia of early aviation in Italy. Specifically the beginning of the Acrobatic Teams that led to the Frecce Tricolori of today.
The FIAT CR.32 is my current dilemma; did the 154 Squadriglia of the 4 Stormo assign a number of the CR.32 from its inventory to the acrobatic team?
There are publications and other papers out there delegating the task to the 153 and 150 and the 1 Stormo and 6 Stormo............and then it gets all confusing.
As I am in process in building a collection of the aircrafts that were used by the Squadriglie (matching Stormo) identifying the aircrafts with their call numbers and ID is extremely important for me, and I need the accuracy.
Is there an organization or group that I may contact and credit the reference? or....
is there a trusted web site that I can use to gain accurate information? or.....
an individual I may be able to correspond to?

I appreciate your patience and understanding, look forward to any instructions or advice. Thank you
Thomas Ricci
Toronto, ON Canada

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:39 pm
by RetiredInKalifornia
tricci57 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:17 pm
Hello
I always remain a bit confused on the dates and Stormo and Squadriglia of early aviation in Italy. Specifically the beginning of the Acrobatic Teams that led to the Frecce Tricolori of today.
The FIAT CR.32 is my current dilemma; did the 154 Squadriglia of the 4 Stormo assign a number of the CR.32 from its inventory to the acrobatic team?
There are publications and other papers out there delegating the task to the 153 and 150 and the 1 Stormo and 6 Stormo............and then it gets all confusing.
As I am in process in building a collection of the aircrafts that were used by the Squadriglie (matching Stormo) identifying the aircrafts with their call numbers and ID is extremely important for me, and I need the accuracy.
Is there an organization or group that I may contact and credit the reference? or....
is there a trusted web site that I can use to gain accurate information? or.....
an individual I may be able to correspond to?

I appreciate your patience and understanding, look forward to any instructions or advice. Thank you
Thomas Ricci
Toronto, ON Canada
...Courage Alone The Italian Air Force 1940-1943 Hikoki Publications 1998 Revised 2009 IBSN 978 1 90210 909 1 55695 Barcode. Comprehensive unit histories, Squadriglia, Gruppo, Stormo cross references June 10, 1940 to September 8, 1943, pre-June 1940 unit histories also, must-have basic reference for those wanting to trace individual wartime squadriglia histories.

Re: Pre 1940 Pattuglia Acrobatica

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:33 pm
by tricci57
Great,

thank you

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:35 pm
by RetiredInKalifornia
tricci57 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:33 pm
Great,

thank you
...Also Regia Aeronautica The Italian Air Force 1923-1945 An Operational History Ian Allan Printing Ltd. 2009 IBSN 978 1 906537 02 9 55695 Barcode it and "Courage Alone" written by Chris Dunning; mutually complementary publications, get both for sure!

Re: Pre 1940 Pattuglia Acrobatica

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:54 am
by tricci57
Excellent references, thank you.

Re: Pre 1940 Pattuglia Acrobatica

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:20 pm
by Editor
Below some specific information from ADI #4 (I haven't read through it). Also look for Ali e Immagini Vol. 1 FIAT CR.32 (mostly a pictorial history but could be useful), there's the old Profile book #22 by Gianni Cattaneo and Squadron Signal #172. But I think you're best bet is to get in touch with Stefano Lazzaro should have more information, he wrote a few articles on this subject in the History articles on this site.










Re: Pre 1940 Pattuglia Acrobatica

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:10 pm
by tricci57
Excellent, thank you. we're getting closer.

Re: Pre 1940 Pattuglia Acrobatica

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:40 am
by Stefano
Though dealing mainly about 4 stormo, this link has a lot of info. Sadly for you it's in Italian. I hope something of your ancestor's language has remained with you. By the day, a pilot of 6 stormo was Corrado Ricci, an ace either in Spain and East Africa. If not, try an automatic translator.
http://www.associazione4stormo.it/Altri ... tormo.html
I hope this help.
Best regards
Stefano

Re: Pre 1940 Pattuglia Acrobatica

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:01 pm
by tricci57
Stefano, non ti preoccupare che pure se si abita all'estero, l'italiano e sempre vivo a casa mia.
Corrado Ricci, era un cugino di mio padre, al terzo grado; siamo molto conosciuti con la nostra famiglia del nord.

E i link che così gentilmente avete fornito non sono disponibili nel mio paese.
Buona sera.

Re: Pre 1940 Pattuglia Acrobatica

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:08 pm
by Editor
tricci57 wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:01 pm
Stefano, non ti preoccupare che pure se si abita all'estero, l'italiano e sempre vivo a casa mia.
Corrado Ricci, era un cugino di mio padre, al terzo grado; siamo molto conosciuti con la nostra famiglia del nord.

E i link che così gentilmente avete fornito non sono disponibili nel mio paese.
Buona sera.
Tom I made some corrections to the link above, I'm not sure that's the link Stefano had in mind but it does work now. Hopefully Stefano can confirm.

Try this link:
http://www.associazione4stormo.it/Altri ... tormo.html

Re: Pre 1940 Pattuglia Acrobatica

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:12 pm
by Stefano
Happy of this.
Best regards
Stefano

Re: Pre 1940 Pattuglia Acrobatica

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 7:14 pm
by tricci57
Editor wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:08 pm
tricci57 wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:01 pm
Stefano, non ti preoccupare che pure se si abita all'estero, l'italiano e sempre vivo a casa mia.
Corrado Ricci, era un cugino di mio padre, al terzo grado; siamo molto conosciuti con la nostra famiglia del nord.

E i link che così gentilmente avete fornito non sono disponibili nel mio paese.
Buona sera.
Tom I made some corrections to the link above, I'm not sure that's the link Stefano had in mind but it does work now. Hopefully Stefano can confirm.

Try this link:
http://www.associazione4stormo.it/Altri ... tormo.html
Thank you for the link correction, the 6 Stormo page is up.