Fiat G-50bis units needed

warhawk · Post by **warhawk** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:56 am

The Serie V of G 50bis built by Fiat's own Aeritalia factory in Turin sported the standard three-tone upper camouflage colours of Verde Mimetico 3 and Marrone Mimetico 2 over a base coat of Giallo Mimetico 3 – this time not in spots, but in alternating diagonal stripes along the fuselage and in ragged patches on the horizontal flying surfaces.

Does anyone know which units (apart from 352 Sq.) received these machines?

modeldad · Post by **modeldad** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:25 am

Are your color call-outs based on factory records or interpretation of the picture.

If the base color is Giallo 3, then the picture represents that color as being nearly brown. Whereas the color chart and FS approximation would indicate that it would be closer an RAF Middle Stone.

Could be a printing issue with the photograph.

warhawk · Post by **warhawk** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:14 am

The color call-outs are based on a modeling article on page
http://hsfeatures.com/features04/fiatg50ws_1.htm

modeldad · Post by **modeldad** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:49 am

Be very very careful. I have nearly all of his references, and this build appears to be his conclusions only. A modeling decision of an unverifiable.

One reference shows an aircraft of that unit (352-2) in a Nocciola Chiaro with streaky Verde Oliva Scuro ('Scale Aviation Modeller International', Vol.7 No.2, Feb. 2001, Fiat G.50 'Freccia' by Richard Caruana)

Another reference indicates G. 50 (352-3) was in Giallo 4 with streaky Verde 3 and Marrone 2 blotches "typical of early tropicalized Fiat-built aircraft. (Colori & Insegne Regia Aeronautica Caccia & Assalto 1940 -43, Parte I /Camouflage and Markings of the Regia Aeronautica, Fighter and Ground Attack Units 1940-43 Part One, by Paolo Waldis, Marino De Bortoli and Angelo Brioschi,La Bancarella Aeronautica, Torino / Giorgio Apostolo Editore, Milano). This reference that more yellow was allowed to show on the top surfaces, thus being more appropriate to the desert setting. There is also one interesting picture of G. 50s of 160 Squadriglia showing at least three different camou scheme application, one being the streaky application.

352-3 is also shown in another reference to be the same as the immmediate above reference. ('Ali d'Italia' No.6, Fiat G 50, by Piero Vergnano, La Bancarella Aeronautica, Torino / Giorgio Apostolo Editore, Milano). Other photos in this reference seem to show merely a streaky finish.

I hope this helps put that modeling article in some perspective.

Rick · Post by **Rick** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:07 am

What is to be considered is that the color Nocciola chiaro had not yet been introduced at the beginning of 1941, being a color introduced by Tavola 10 and by the relevant application notes 147 and 148 dated autumn 1941; I should have some doubt about a profile that introduces this color in that date.
Riccardo

Post by **Editor** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:39 am

Yellow cowlings appeared on RA planes from about April 1941 (2nd Attack on Greece) to October 1941 and before Tavola 10. I don't think Nocciola Chiaro was used to paint this plane.

warhawk · Post by **warhawk** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:31 pm

Can anyone help me with my question from above? Which units(apart from 352 Sq.) received these machines?

Post by **Editor** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:32 pm

378 Sq. is the most notable unit that carried this camo scheme however do read through the following thread:

http://stormomagazine.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=111

Mirek Riha · Post by **Mirek Riha** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:27 am

warhawk wrote:The Serie V of G 50bis built by Fiat's own Aeritalia factory in Turin sported the standard three-tone upper camouflage colours of Verde Mimetico 3 and Marrone Mimetico 2 over a base coat of Giallo Mimetico 3 – this time not in spots, but in alternating diagonal stripes along the fuselage and in ragged patches on the horizontal flying surfaces.

Does anyone know which units (apart from 352 Sq.) received these machines?

Hi in this link is probably the same camo

http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/Regia1/FiatG50-2.jpg

warhawk · Post by **warhawk** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:37 am

I read that aircraft of 353a, 354a and 355a squadriglia also had this streaky cammo. Is this true?

Rakaze · Post by **Rakaze** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:43 pm

Howdy, I`m still in the learning stage when it come to Italian Camo , but I`m curious....I dont know if this subject concerning the G.50 has already been discussed or not...but here goes..
The profile on back of the Squadron Regia Aeronauticia Vol. 1 (1976) shows a light green & dark green mottled G.50 of the 352 Squadriglia. Has this color scheme been ruled out sinse the publication of the book , or is this one of those deep "in my opinion" subjects with no documented support. Like I mentioned above, I have no clue....I would love for it to be a valid camo scheme, as I am hoping to paint my Sector G.50 in this scheme. I can see where it could be the green scheme, as well as the yello scheme depending on the photos available. I can also tell there has been some spotty discoloration over the years in the color photos, but nothing that would (here goes...!), in my opinion, rule out the green based camo scheme.
Thanks.......I specifically would like to learn more on G.50 352-7.

Post by **Editor** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:14 pm

Try the stormo color guide and click the hyperlink "CMPR Camouflage Schemes". Look for the C3 camo scheme. According to the CMPR, such a scheme did exist.

http://www.stormomagazine.com/RegiaAero ... WII_3a.htm

Rakaze · Post by **Rakaze** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:06 pm

Thank You !....That`s what I wanted to hear ! BTW.....Great Website !

Post by **Editor** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:33 pm

Thank you.

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